Open Thread - Preseason Broncos @ Cardinals

IAOFM Sep 1, 2011 9:00 PM

Roster battles to watch: RBs - Lance Ball/Jeremiah Johnson/Brandon Minor; TEs - Dante Rosario/Dan Gronkowski; WRs - Matthew Willis/Britt Davis; OL - Chris Clark/Manny Ramirez/Eric Olsen/Stanley Daniels; LB - Mike Mohamed/Lee Robinson; S David Bruton/Darcel McBath

Enjoy the game, and Go Broncos!

Open Threads

Yeah, lose Mohamed and Robinson, sorry to say.

Posted by tunesmith on 2011-09-02 06:25:36

Sounds like Syd&#8217Quan will be out for the season.

Posted by RSH on 2011-09-02 05:09:28

I think Tebow wins 2nd string.Minor wins the runningback battle, Rosario loses the TE battle. Did Willis get hurt? Keep McBath, lose Cox. Muhommed out Robinson out too.

Posted by sleepyteak on 2011-09-02 05:00:03

Holy cow! Should I start a Start Weber! campaign? <img alt="wink" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" style="border:0;" width="19"> but seriously, yeah this all bodes well for Riley, even if against 3rd string.

Posted by underdog on 2011-09-02 04:59:21

Agreed, Space&#8230

Posted by sluggo on 2011-09-02 04:59:00

Orton, Tebow, Webber would be my depth chart

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:58:22

Weber is like Doug Flutie.

Good for him.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:57:56

Eron is now on the team. Welcome

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:56:01

Weber + Riley!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 04:55:54

@magster

Tebow&#8217s QB rating is 127, Quinn was 2.8, and since 2.8 is a lower number, and you ALWAYS go with golf scoring, you go with Quinn.

Besides, didn&#8217t you know he has an awesome throwing motion? It is like poetry in motion and every time I see it I just get dreamy and all the sound in the room fades and I think I am in love

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:50:55

BRING ON THE RAIDERS!!!!

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:50:05

RSH, they could have done some playcalling that didnt horribly expose the teams weaknessess

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:48:01

Space, what are you expecting from a play calling stand point in the last game of the preseason? It&#8217s been vanilla for a reason.

Posted by RSH on 2011-09-02 04:46:17

So coaches, Orton separates a shoulder on his first drive against Oakland&#8212who comes in as # 2 QB?

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 04:45:44

I like them calling timeouts to give Weber a chance. I think that&#8217s what they are doing.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:45:20

Riley FLEW BY the CB. He needs to make this team. I think he beats out Anderson for the 5th spot after his last 2 catches.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:43:29

Well, that was the best minute of the game

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:43:12

uh oh. look out Orton here comes Tebow! jk

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:42:11

I like this D&#8217Andre Goodwin kid. I hope there&#8217s room for him on the practice squad.

Posted by Xtreme212000 on 2011-09-02 04:40:04

And the playcalling has been atrocious. This version of foxball is shit

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:38:00

In Tebow and Quinn&#8217s defense, the O-line was horrid tonight.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 04:36:36

I hope we don&#8217t go cheap, we&#8217ll need to over-pay the cut players that are borderline good.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:36:02

Tebow looked pretty bad tonight but Brady Quinn with a 7.6 QB rating. I canât remember the last time Iâve heard about a rating in the single digits before.

Posted by CT254 on 2011-09-02 04:34:32

This game feels like it&#8217s lasted for 6 hours.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 04:33:50

hmmm, well tho this game may not mean much, it does show how incredibly lacking in depth the team has. This makes sense on the front 7 side of the D since we don&#8217t have veteran depth there (3-4 type players), but our O-line HAS got to be improved.

Get 2 C/G, 1 OT, 2 DT, 1 DE, 1 OLB, 2 CB

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:33:47

With this depth, it will be a miracle of the Broncos win 6 games this year

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:32:27

Baf = bad + barf. <img alt="wink" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" style="border:0;" width="19"> seems to sum it up.

Posted by underdog on 2011-09-02 04:27:50

I am perdicting 1st and 2nd down run plays

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:26:42

Mohamed must be cut. McBath should stay.

Posted by RSH on 2011-09-02 04:26:13

Last drive for Tebow I think.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:25:14

Oh dear&#8230 I see I haven&#8217t missed much&#8230.good. LOL. Is it as baf as it looks? Or just proof our 3rd string stinks, etc.?

Ay caramba. Cut day may be easier than I thought.

Posted by underdog on 2011-09-02 04:22:28

I like Bing.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:22:09

I am not a believer in Mohamed. He&#8217s outta here.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 04:21:19

what I just said

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:18:26

Mohamed has not successfully covered a player this entire preseason I think.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:16:40

I got the sense that the coaches told Tebow that if he runs on a pass play, they&#8217ll bench him in the 4th. You could tell he was restraining his instincts on those throws to Anderson and Gronk. G. Orton just got himself cut by dropping that pass.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 04:14:57

Orange and Blue FTW!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 04:13:47

there are several La Quintas in Phoenix. Someone should keep an eye on Prater until he gets back on plane.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:13:04

Wow, Prater just shanked that one all the way

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:12:39

Gah, two ugly passes by Tebow.

SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 04:11:17

SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK! SUCK FOR LUCK!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 04:09:37

please roll out Tebow

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:08:26

Why they dont do bootlegs with TT boggles

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:08:12

mag, it all depends on what becomes available in FA.

If we get 2 DTs we really like then McBen is gone.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:05:58

Jay Feely has now outscored the Broncos 36-13 in the last two meetings between the Cardinals and Broncos.

Posted by RSH on 2011-09-02 04:03:53

Hey, is it December 2010? I swear I have seen this somewhere before. . . . . .

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 04:02:48

Not really, Magster. I think Fox and team are reasonable. They&#8217ll cut the weakest who they can replace. Unfortunately, not many players looked very good tonight, and some who did got hurt. Dang.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 04:02:41

not liking feely doing well again against us (bad memories).

someone needs to chop block him

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 04:02:38

So does anyone think we&#8217ll have a &#8220Whoa&#8221 cut&#8212someone who everyone thinks is a keeper except the head coach?

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:59:52

Well, maybe next year we&#8217ll shore up the depth at O-line, D-line, and QB. Luckily, the QB draft depth next season sounds pretty deep. We sure could use it. God help us if Orton leaves.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 03:59:36

Ronnell Brown is in!! Go get em 62

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:57:13

The play calling/scheme isnt masking the weakness of the 2nd team

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:56:12

Quinn just said to Tebow, &#8220you suck worse than me.&#8221

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:56:09

that guy on TV should be worth a look at the OL

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:56:03

Tebow&#8217s first drives are generally suck-y.

Did Anderson return punts in the 1st half? If he isn&#8217t considered as the team&#8217s punt returner (now that squid is hurt), his status on making the team is in question.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:54:49

Mantra, it&#8217s not all hyperbole. Quinn just played the worst half of QB that I&#8217ve seen since Tommy Maddox wore a Broncos uniform. Even Simms never played that badly.

Posted by DCJ on 2011-09-02 03:50:03

Tebow, here he comes.

I wonder how much the FO hope Tebow only does well vs. great.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:48:42

Having only watched the start of the 3rd quarter, this defense seems pretty uneventful (not Allen&#8217s usual game calling). Of course they just run blitzed, but other than that, this defense may be very vanilla. Yes, no?

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:47:22

Might Quinn get cut if Weber plays well?

running right thru our D. McBean back on the bubble.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:44:28

I am not used to seeing all the knee-jerk reactions, hyperbole and panic reactions on this site.

Posted by Mhantra on 2011-09-02 03:42:54

Worst thing for all for me is that my ps3 died tonight, so I cant even pretend in Madden anymore!

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:42:39

Unlike others, I don&#8217t have a man-crush on a certain fumble-prone flash in the pan running back. But Quinn makes me regret that trade. I&#8217m thinking cut Quinn, make Tebow #2 and Weber #3. Seriously. How could it be worse?

Posted by DCJ on 2011-09-02 03:41:17

I must thank my mother for telling me where to find the game on tv here in AZ. grateful yet embarrassed.

glad I got to miss the Quinn Horror picture show.

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:41:06

What a disappointment - and I&#8217m not talking about Brady Quinn. The injuries, especially to Syd and Irving, are the last thing you need in the fourth preseason game. And we all knew they had very little depth, but this is absurd. I could see us picking up six or seven guys on the waiver wire who immediately move onto our second team.

Posted by Royalwithcheese on 2011-09-02 03:40:47

Tebow will have his opportunity for redemption. If he falls down on this, he most certainly doesn&#8217t deserve consideration. Quinn just exposed himself for what he always was&#8230let&#8217s see what Tebow can put together with his team. This situation is the perfect opportunity for #15.

Hero, or zero? I guess we&#8217ll see&#8230.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 03:40:45

No namers who caught my attention were # 16 and # 47. Can&#8217t even remember their names, but they each had 2 nice plays.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:39:03

And by release I mean let see him play already!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 03:38:47

I agree Alex X, it&#8217s time for Weber to take the #2 spot. <img alt="smile" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/smile.gif" style="border:0;" width="19">

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:37:47

ND, I would only point out that a whole 2nd team is significantly different from being 2nd teamer playing with #1s. McCarthy is a complimentary player when paired with better player. Some players seem to play to the level of their teammates. I wouldn&#8217t read much into this effort except that we don&#8217t have any &#8220hidden gems&#8221 on the 2nd team and beyond.

Is #62 Ronnell Brown playing yet?

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:36:42

Remember, year 1 of 3 in a rebuilding team. This is to be expected, and the starters will start to see plenty of pain and trouble as soon as teams actually game plan for them.

Perspective is important

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:36:40

Would be great to get another CB. Find someone else to return punts/kickoffs hopefully

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:36:18

Right now I would grab anyone waived by the Packers and anyone that can add depth. Can we just waive Quinn? The fact that he and Project Tebow keep trading #2 and #3 spots says a lot of things. And none of them are good.

RELEASE THE WEBER!

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 03:35:48

Thanks ND & Mag.

Squid?!!! That&#8217s horrible. trade for Samuel? or pick up a couple of CBs, esp if Cox stunk it up too and gets cut.

So Eddie (squid injury) is stuck returning punts now? UGH!!!

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:33:55

This is the first game I&#8217ve seen, but I&#8217ve heard comments about how good some of these guys look (McCarthy, etc). I was actually hopeful. Now it appears we have no depth anywhere, not even at QB. I heard how good Quinn looked. He&#8217s had time and looks like crap.

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:33:46

This is a young team with promise on D, but serious questions everywhere not named Von Champ Doom

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:31:42

As far as FA pickups, we will grab:

1-3 OL

1-2 DL

1 LB

1 CB

1 RB?

From what was written, Cox seems like he&#8217l be gone.

That&#8217s not a huge amount but definitely could change our depth picture

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:31:22

Orange and Blue - Looks like Syd&#8217Quan blew out an Achilles tendon.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:30:54

Orange and Blue: You missed all of our defensive backs getting burned repeatedly. Arizona learned our weakness, as always, is 3rd down&#8230on offense and defense. Oh, you also missed that Quinn worked hard to move down to third string.

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:29:45

John Fox&#8217s comment about Quinn&#8217s performance, &#8220That&#8217s about as bad as it gets.&#8221 Yep, that pretty much summarizes Quinn. In &#821609, I think his QB rating was something like 60. Nice. So glad we brought him in.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 03:29:33

haha, Fox was pretty pissed about the way they played. Oh no. Who got hurt seriously?

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:28:57

Getting murdered by the 2nd string of the worst team in theNFC west. Yeah this is a 12-4 team.

Winning tjis game isnt the important part, it was the play of the players, and currently this is not an encouraging thing

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:28:15

Yikes all, seriously&#8230Brady, I wanted to believe, but&#8230yikes&#8230

Posted by Mhantra on 2011-09-02 03:27:57

I feel much better about cuts though. We could probably cut more to make room for other teams&#8217 scrubs that will get waived next week.

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:27:26

Just got in and realized I&#8217m getting blacked out for this game. Sucks.

Now listening to KOA online. What&#8217s happened of note? Did Cards play their #1s?

Posted by Orange and Blue on 2011-09-02 03:27:15

2 plays for Alvin Bowen. Nicely done.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:26:41

SpaceCowboy, that&#8217s what I&#8217m worried about&#8230the half of the 53 man roster (26-27 guys) suck.

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:25:38

See what Merrill Hoge and Boomer say about Quinn this week.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:24:40

I think Quinn is making a strong play for 3rd string QB.

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:24:28

I meant &#8220beat a rug&#8221

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:23:56

NDBronco, and probably close to half of the 53 man roster is out there playing right now

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:22:50

Cox with 2 dumb ass plays in a row.

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:20:55

Wow. This is embarrassing. Our second string offense and defense couldn&#8217t be a rug. We are making Arizona look like Green Bay

Posted by NDbronco on 2011-09-02 03:20:44

I have a problem with coaches that dont try to find a way to use a talent to their fullest. A failure of coaching to me

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:20:22

McD traded away the second coming of John Riggins. Or at least a passing facsimile so far&#8230.

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 03:18:52

Can we hire Dawk full time after he retires? He has made this team his family. Always the guy out on the field whenever anyone is injured

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:17:17

Oh&#8230you mean that POS #11 ranked running back that McGenius never wanted to play.

Yeah, I&#8217m so glad we got Quinn instead. Hope he gets the #2 spot. That oughta help the team.

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 03:14:56

We won&#8217t have to cut everyone, just keep whoever doesn&#8217t get injured. Sheez

Posted by magster on 2011-09-02 03:14:24

Looks like we depth/better players at:

O line

D line

Secondary

LB

Suckapalooza indeed.

Posted by Alex X on 2011-09-02 03:13:44

Some Try Hard Whitw Guy who is on the cover of some video game

Posted by SpaceCowboy on 2011-09-02 03:11:58

What&#8217d McDip pay for Quinn? I forgot&#8230

Posted by jtomasik on 2011-09-02 03:09:36

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