Welcome to day three of the 2011 NFL Draft, Broncos fans! Enjoy the proceedings!
What about Hunter-Ayers-Vick-Dumervil? I saw Ayers flash at tackle a few times last season, and I think Hunter is under-estimated.
Can we play a 1:5:5?
Beal is a stud. I know he’s a tweener, but I think he’ll make the team and contribute as a rookie.
spock, I think I underestimated how ill-fitted we were for both a 3-4 and 4-3 defense. The philosophy may have been to work from the back end to the front. If everyone else was focused on DL, then maybe there was the advantage of picking up the best players that fit our new scheme.
This is a long process of getting the new regime’s players. It looks like we have a revamped defense that will be quick and attack. I like it.
The DL can be addressed in FA or next yr. I am trusting that the new paradigm in place made us not focus on exactly what we have and what we need.
Well, NFL.com thought that was an OK pick though he looks more like another LB:http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/...
Beal is an undersized college defensive end that will likely have to move to a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. He explodes off the ball, shows good lean to get around the corner and has a vast repertoire of pass rushing moves. He has an outstanding motor and never gives up on plays. He is a fluid athlete that flashes the ability to play in space and he has a great feel for the game and should hold up in zone coverage. Beal lacks experience as a linebacker, but has the tools to play there and will likely hear his name on Day 2.
ud, great job plucking him out early in the day.
Well, we got one DL and it wasnt a DT. Oh well.
I like this draft but dont love it. We’ll have to see how the FA pans out.
from VicLombardi on twitter:Vic Lombardi RT @Droksid: Ask him if why he past on Marvin Austin at 46 when he had a 1st round grade.—-@VicLombardi: I’m told he had attitudinal issues
Like some others, I’m perplexed that we haven’t taken any defensive tackles. I’m not mad at EFX, not wanting to fire anybody, just trying to figure out why my expectations were so far off the mark. It doesn’t seem credible to me that they meant to address that position and it just didn’t work out. Either E, F and X didn’t see eye to eye, or Fox didn’t think we were as bad off at DT as many of us thought we were. Perhaps he thinks the players we kept can be much more effective in a 4-3 than in a 3-4. Perhaps he felt that our poor run defense last year owed more to poor linebacker than poor line play. Perhaps he thought poor coordination, not individual talent, was the problem. I’m interested in what others think.
Seeing Lawrence Guy go off the board is frustrating, but…
We potentially now have our LB corps for the next several yrs.
We now have our safeties for the future, however I thought Champ at some point would move over there.
Our starting OL now could be set if RT is Franklin.
TEs are now a developing bunch but very talented.
DE could be strength if Doom returns 100% and Ayers plays up to his potential.
We have one quality DT and must expect to sign at lest two FA DTs. We must. And/Or we will address next yr.
Bottom line: We improved our defense as a whole esp the back end. And we improved our offense line - esp the troubled RT position.
My initial final grade: B
Grade based on finding players that will contribute immediately if not start right away. If Moore, Franklin and Irving start by season’s end based on solid play and not attrition, then it’s an A-/A.
Underdog/O&B27, you guys are taking this much too seriously.
13 DT went on day 1 and 2 Since 2 in round 6 and 1 in round 7. Fox was probably hoping Liuget, Taylor, or Wilkerson fell to them in round 2.
I get BPA and agree with it but….Fox himself said this was the deepest class in years at the D line position. So wouldn’t it make sense that at least one of the times they picked, the best player available was a D lineman? It just makes no sense to me that the position of greatest need happened to coincide with the drafts greatest strength, yet we managed to not pick a single d lineman but instead came away with 2 safeties, 3 backers, and 2 TE’s.
Agreed 100% Underdog.
Alex, I don’t mean any disrespect, but I trust a coaching staff with a ton of experience scouting and evaluating and coaching over, well, you or me. There were a couple of DTs I liked that apparently Denver did not. Other than that I pretty much like every guy they drafted and would rather them take best players available rather than totally reach based on need. Free agency hasn’t started yet, either, so between veteran free agents and undrafted free agents I think Denver will be adding some guys, you know? Let’s wait til the off season is over before freaking out.
I thought Fox was just making an honest statement and that the guys they had been targeting has just not fallen their way.
*‘there’ not ‘their’* JEEEEEEEEEzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Fire Xanders? Isn’t Elway the tie-breaker? So either two of them agreed on all of these picks, or Elway is to be given credit. Xanders is Teflon.
And I was wondering, does Fox’s statement after the first two days that he was “hoping for a DT” suggest their may already be some tension between the 3 headed monster?
This was my wish list, you can look it up:
2 DLs, 2 LBS, and 2 DBs. Maybe an OL, a TE and a RB.
So far we got a boatload of LBs, some safety help, 1 OL, and a few TEs.
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Positives: Three-year starter is an excellent downfield receiver with natural hands and top ball skills. Fast and elusive, good acceleration and change of direction. Excellent body control, can configure physique to get hands on off-target throws and reel them in. Runs good routes. Snatches ball with hands away from body. Can break tackles downfield and get YAC. Athletic enough for consideration as a wideout. Decent blocker when using proper technique. Durable and productive.
Negatives: Not always an aggressive blocker. Lacks sand in his pants and doesn’t block with a lot of power. Doesn’t finish blocks. Too often content with just one block attempt and fails to initiate another. Blocking technique is inconsistent across the board. More wideout than tight end at the next level. Could be pigeonholed into “just an H-Back” category.
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I was hoping we would get Virgil Green! Not sure how he fits now. Practice squad, maybe.
WOW. Virgil Green? Did I dream we took Julius Thomas?
Well, I guess Gronk and Coates could be gone.
Did Greek check out Green’s knee?!
Stocking up on TEs and LBshttp://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/...
Granted, it’s from March 4, but:
“Bannan said he was still absorbing his release from the Broncos, who had signed him to a five-year, $22 million contract in March that included a $6.3 million signing bonus and $10.5 million in guarantees.
But Bannan said Denver asked him to take a pay cut, and when he declined, the organization waived him.
“I’ve got a pregnant wife on my hands, and she’s upset,” Bannan said of his wife Sommer who is due on Sept. 10. “We thought we had a home base for at least a little bit. Our world really just got turned upside down today. So it really came as quite a shock, and it’s very upsetting to me and my family. We’re going to have to take a step back and see what the next move is going to be.”
Feeling like he had the rug pulled out from underneath him AND his wife and unborn child, when they “thought they had a home base” and now their “world is upside down.” I don’t know him, and I don’t purport to know how he thinks, but that doesn’t sound like the type of thing a lot of people would be able to let go of after some reflection. But who knows? Maybe (hopefully) his love for living in Colorado outweighs any lingering hard feelings.
Powe gone. If we do pick a DT how about Ian Williams or Lawrence Guy? Please X-man.
Powe is gone - to KC
I guess what is the most frustrating thing to me is that it’s another year without drafting a DT. It’s also this idea about not wanting to reach. I get that no one wants to have Mayock ripping them, but we just don’t know enough about these guys how they’ll pan out, and where they are actually going to go to get too caught up in value. If you need a DT and there’s one you think is worth a second round pick like Jenkins, pick him. In september no one will care that we didn’t get the best value we could have, but we’ll care that they can run it up the gut.
@ncm42: I’ve not seen any direct quotes from Bannan since early March, but I have trouble seeing him being all that angry after reflecting on the situation. Every NFL team took the same tack with their players who were due roster bonuses going into the lockout to reduce expenses. He talked about going back to Baltimore, but if they were willing to pay and play him, they would not have let him walk last year.
DoubleJay, I highly doubt it. Read some of JB’s interviews after he was cut. Doesn’t seem to think he was treated all that fairly by the team. If anything, I’d be willing to bet he ends up back in Baltimore or maybe even <gulp> Oakland.
Thanks DoubleJay. It was a rhetorical question but worth a revisit.
Anyway, I’ve heard that his thoughts that there are two chances on re-signing with the Donkeys: Little and None.
I think X-man is trying to show much he really wanted Clay Matthews by picking a 5 LBs this draft.
We cut Bannan to avoid paying a large roster bonus.Look for the Broncos to resign him once the league year starts.
@ Fan In Exile : LOL
FiE, I think we missed it where Denver has a “lockout” on DTs.
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Also, why did we cut Bannan?
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I think now they’re trying to piss us off.
Even NFL.com says meh to this pick
Another LB. Wow, okay. Seems like very versatile guy.
Positives: Extremely smart, productive, durable and experienced. Sure tackler with a nose for the ball. Athletic with good “game speed” on the field. Can turn and run with receivers, and projects well covering tight ends in the NFL. Uses his tall frame well and makes plays on the ball in coverage. Top intangibles; very smart in the classroom. Played in a variety of formations, including inside in a 3-4 and at Mike and Will in 4-3 alignments. Actually may project best in the NFL as a 4-3 Sam.
Negatives: Somewhat high hipped, and as a result tends to play and run high and upright. Too often tackles by diving at ankles. Not a “thumper.” Marginal blitzer who struggles to defeat blocks. Doesn’t have a lot of “sand in his pants” and tends to get destroyed when colliding with linemen. Looks like a big safety. May need a scheme like a Tampa-2 that doesn’t require a lot of collisions with linemen to succeed.
well, Todman now goes to Chargers. He’ll be replacing Sproles’ role on offense whenever Sproles goes. not fun, since I liked him.
And, Irving may turn out to be an excellent pick, with Joe Mays and perhaps Kelley behind him
Actually, I think this guy might be a steal in the 6th if available:
Positives: Attacks the pocket from a two- or three-point stance. Has a strong upper body and uses his arms to shed blocks. Uses his athleticism, quickness and surprising leverage to beat lineman around the corner on a speed rush. Effective stutter-step and swim move for change-up rush moves. Good lateral agility to penetrate the line when twisting with the defensive tackle. Keeps his eyes in the backfield, using length and large hands to knock down passes. Has fluid hips and can drop into coverage quickly for his size. Transitions and accelerates out of his backpedal. Shows great awareness in man coverage and is physical running with tight ends. Stays patient in contain on the back side. Able to spin off blocks and find the ballcarrier in run support. Owns the balance to close quickly on the quarterback with a good burst. Very strong wrap-up tackler, but his upper body strength allows him to get away with arm tackles. Chases down plays that bounce to the outside when his motor is running.
Negatives: Has a very inconsistent motor. Not very explosive off the line and tends to try to get penetration using finesse rather than strength. Plays too high at times, gets stood up at the line. Does not show regular aggression as a pass rusher and often seems indecisive. Struggles to avoid cut blocks. Does not run his legs while engaged. Spin move is ineffective when pass rushing.
Hey Everyone, hope you’re doing well. The latest Chewing the Fat has just been posted…
ud, here what cbs sports has on Beal:
04/04/2011 - Top linebacker prospects: 8. Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma, 6-2, 262, 4-5 A three-time first-team All-Big 12 pick by the AP, Beal was also named the conference Defensive Player of the Year as a senior by the Dallas Morning News after leading the Big 12 with 18 tackles for loss and pacing the Sooners with 8.5 sacks. Beal’s consistency is one of his calling cards; he’s the first player in school history with at least 8.5 sacks in three different seasons. That’s a lot of production for someone who wasn’t initially offered a scholarship due to underwhelming natural athleticism (5.14 40, 28 1/2-inch vertical at the combine). Beal has played with his hand down, standing up and in the middle, but will likely have to earn his NFL paycheck as an inside linebacker due to his lack of speed. - Jeff Reynolds, The Sports Xchange
Not sure he could play Mike for us based on the above.
What about DE Jeremy Beal of Oklahoma? Might be better value than one of the DTs? Just thnking aloud.
Interesting how no DE was chosen in rd 4 and thru the 1st 27 picks of the 5th rd. There is still quality there.
Ricky Elmore (DE - AZ)
Positives: Three-year starter at end for the Wildcats is a high motor prospect who led the Pac-10 in sacks each of the past two seasons. Relentless in pursuit of the quarterback. Can be very quick off the snap in spurts. Has a fast wide rush and a good inside move to counter. Recognizes plays well, and is a secure tackler. Played both right and left end as part of a three-man rotation as a senior. Team leader and high effort player.
Negatives: Quickness off snap varies considerably. Wasn’t productive against top competition. Has trouble disengaging from blocks. Doesn’t play with a lot of power. Not stout against the run, can be controlled and pushed around and lacks an inspiring bull rush. Can change directions but is neither fast nor overly agile.
Greg Romeus (DE - Pitt)
Strengths: Prototype-sized NFL rush end. Owns good (but not special) closing speed to the ball that helps him provide secondary rush when the offense can’t hit its first option. Effective bull rush, able to get his hands up and arms extended to walk tackles toward the quarterback. Fairly smooth moving into coverage, could potentially move to a 3-4 linebacker with NFL coaching. Rips off blocks with his hands, shows enough flexibility to get under shoulder pads to turn the corner and is able to swim over tackles with violent hands and a jump-step. Able to knock down passes with his long arms and large hands when penetrating into the backfield. Could be a three-down player at the next level because of his leverage against the run on the weak side. Stacks tackles and disengages to contain against cutbacks. Recovers from punches, maintaining his ground and getting back into the action to catch backs coming through the hole. Good flexibility to get under pads to penetrate gaps inside or outside. Flashes pop into man’s jersey to bull rush or punch and roll outside to take away bootlegs and outside runs. Upper-body strength allows him to rip the ball out of running backs or receivers’ grasp while making a tackle.
Weaknesses: Good, not great, get-off at the snap as a pass rusher. Tests tackles on the edge more with his height and length than pure speed, but may have trouble doing so against veteran NFL linemen. Fails to give good effort if held up on the line. Runs with his pads high, best when going straight to the quarterback because of average change-of-direction ability; mobile passers will elude him in the backfield. Will bite on misdirection. Needs to improve defeating cut blocks. Does not stack and control ends on the edge consistently, needs to use his hands more efficiently to make plays. Could improve his consistency chasing plays; stands around too often after his teammates make initial contact.
whoops: his name is Da’Rel Scott RB - Maryland
Here’s an interesting RB that may go undrafted:
Positives: While track star fast, can also turn and cut very well; shifty. Excellent vision, picks the right hole and explodes through it. Powerful lower body can run through arm tackles. Finishes inside runs hard, keeping his feet moving and gets the extra yard. Made big plays in big games. Good receiver out of the backfield. Gives effort as a blocker.
Negatives: Injury history - knee and wrist the most serious. Was not asked to block much, and may struggle with NFL feature back blocking assignments because of small frame. Has had problems with fumbles, although protected the ball as a senior. Didn’t do much as a kick returner early in his career at Maryland. Only as a sophomore did he truly carry the load. Part of a three-back rotation as a senior.
There are several RBs we could look at like this too.
Ian Williams/Lawrence Guy/Powe/Silga would be solid choice in rd 6. One should drop.
Greg Jones anyone?
How about Guy?
Rodgers is gone, alas. Hmm, Powe and Silga still there, but will they last til Denver next picks is question.
Can Rogers or Todman last until rd 6? I can’t imagine, but I can hope.
The Tebow to Thomas Twins (Demaryius and Julius) sounds pretty good.
At the very least our special teams should be drastically better this year. Let’s hope the D is too.
“Starter” is somewhat mis-leading. If Irving, Moore and Carter end the season playing 50% or more of the defensive snaps, all 3 picks are hugely successful.
Franklin will be the RT, unless Harris stays somehow, then Franklin is the best OL backup we have had in years - with the injury-prone Harris, he is great insurance.
Yes. Hell with that kind of writing I should be Legwold’s boss
“Miller may become a starter depending on his development.”
are you angling for a sports writer gig at the DP? <img alt="wink" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" style="border:0;" width="19">
(I’m guessing you meant Moore.)
Thanks Space. That makes sense to me. I may be letting my disappointment cloud my judgment, but I have a hard time believing that between Paea and Austin, at least one of them wouldn’t have been starting from day 1.
But again, hopefully the FO has a plan. And I’m a big fan of Marcus Thomas and Big Vick, so I guess we’ll just wait and see what happens in FA period. Would be nice to see MT live up to that talk when he was drafted that he was that year’s version of Austin: A 1st round talent who dropped because of off-field concerns and a hiatus from playing because of suspension. Now that I write that, the situation is almost exactly the same. Weird.
What Space said.—Man, will Rogers still be there in next round? Doubtful, but… gotta be tempting. Wonder if Broncos can trade up again?
Franklin is probably going to be the starter at RT (minus some surprising news on the Ryan Harris front). I would also say Irving has a very strong chance of being a starter (or at the very least a part of a strong rotation).
Miller may become a starter depending on his development.
I dunno, I would argue that our first 4 picks will all be starting this year.
Thanks for the response UD. What about Iriving? Do we think he is our Mike on opening day? (Please, oh please let there be an opening day….)
ncm, I would argue either of the safeties could at least be penciled in at starter for Denver, though that is partially a comment on the team’s safety depth. But I bet either Moore or Carter is starting at start of 2011 season.
QDoc, I hear ya. And I agree, it is going to be fun seeing how the DP “writers” can write the same article 17000 different ways in the next few weeks. And how Woody is going to talk about how he tried to tell EFX what they should have done, but they wouldn’t listen to him, even though he used to live next to and drink beers with George Karl!!!
But I AM excited about Julius Thomas. The little bit I’m seeing, he has a bit of Antonio Gates to him. That’s not a bad thing in any way….
Space, that’s a fair point, but who have we taken that we can say without a doubt is a day one starter after Von Miller?
From Matt Williamson via ESPN:: Julius Thomas, an athletic TE-and need for Denver, is the pick. Makes a lot of sense.
ncm, i don’t disagree with your points. i agree that it’s a glaring need and we need to address it.
I just think that it will get overblown. If the BPAs truly were Moore and Franklin, then we definitely took the right guys. I wanted Austin and Paea there. Austin was a possible character risk and it might have been a bit of a reach for Paea there. I’m glad this regime is sticking to its board rather then reaching (ala Jarvis Moss, et al) for “need.”
I was just trying to figure out what the DP was going to latch on to and beat to death. My guess is not drafting a DT. I think EFX has a plan to address DT and RB in FA, whenever that happens.
Question: Who was around in the 2nd/3rd round that would have been an instant starter? Everything I am hearing is that it takes 2-3 years before those guys can contribute, and they can’t play special teams. The only way I believe we could have gotten a DT would have been to trade up and grab Fairley, but that is just like, my opinion and stuff.
Legwold probably still thinks Denver has only 5 picks.
QDoc, not that I want to defend the DP in any way, shape, or form, but the fact that we haven’t tried drafting a top-tier DT in a looooong time and the fact that it is a glaring need that has yet to be addressed are both fair points. Until that need is addressed, it’s not.
QDoc, don’t ever fall asleep on X-man. He’s got three picks to maneuver back into the 5th rd. He loves to trade. I love it.
Legwold’s new rant will be that we haven’t drafted a DT since Trevor Pryce.
In all seriousness, I think the DP’s message track for the next 12 months will be that we didn’t address the gaping DT hole in the draft.
For the most part I’m liking where we’re going though. I like the TE pick - although I would have liked Green or Williams more. This Thomas guy might have more upside though. He’s definitely bigger.
No 5th round pick now. Gonna be a while until we can get excited again.
I like the Thomas pick. Very exciting player. Lots of potential at a spot of need.
Space, I think X-man pretty much made Legwold look like a complete idiot - he was 99.93% idiot before.
So barring any more trades is that 8 draft picks total with 6 in the first 4…..
What is Legwold gonna write about now???
QDoc, I’ll give myself credit too (comment #15 on this thread). We rule!
We must think RB and DT will be covered by Free agency. We now have remaining:
we gave up a 5th and a 6th to get GB’s 4th and 7th. All this year’s picks.
Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State. Dude was a basketball player and has great hands. Needs to learn to block. Mayock was pretty positive about him.
I had the right position just wrong guy. <img alt="grin" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/grin.gif" style="border:0;" width="19"> (Yes, I am taking credit for it!!!)
There is our TE - Julian Thomas
gave up our 5th rd pick and 6th rd pick for the 129 pick and #207 (7th rd pick)
what happened I just stepped out?!! trade, what did we give up
I’m in class today, can you give details of the trade, please?
WOO HOO! We made a trade! Excitement!!!
i am thinking TE. I have liked DJ Williams for a while. Just realized that Virgil Green is still on the board. That dude is an athletic freak of nature. A poor-man’s Vernon Davis. Not much of a blocker though. We have Quinn for that though. Williams is a little more complete than Green but I’d like either one.
Maybe more LB depth? Greg Jones is still out there. Great for depth and ST play. High motor and character. I could see it.
Or Powe at DT. I am beginning to like his chances a bit more.
QDoc, he did seem to plod, but he was productive. I suppose LenDale is better suited for that.
Todman (RB - UConn) and Jacquizz are gets with 5th rd pick.
I like Greg Romeus if we can have a chance at him also.
come on O&B, Clay is not going to be a good NFL RB. No speed. Straight line only. Slow plodder. He’s not nearly as good as Ron Dayne, and Dayne was largely a bust in the NFL. Same type of guy. Clay’s just not nearly as good.
We need a versitile guy who can run well enough and catch the ball. Taiwan Jones would have been good but looks like he just went to the Speed Merchant KryptKeeper.
I don’t like any of the RB left, to be honest.
Surprised his lack of knowledge of Henery. He is a very good kicker. Long and accurate.
ncm42, yep. That’s the guy. I could not remember his name. He sure could match up against Gates.
I saw some Wisc games and I always thought John Clay (RB) ran well and tough. He is likely going to go undrafted. Since UDFAs will not be able to be talked to until issues resolved, maybe we should use our 7th rd pick on him.
Fantastic comment from Mayock about the selection of the kicker/punter from Nebraska…“I only do position evaluations” (or something like that).
He had no clue about Henery.
Thanks for all the info, OB.
OB27, are you talking about Sam Brandon? The ‘TE matchup specialist’ who matched up well with Gates? If so, UNLV!!!! woot woot!
We aren’t looking for a FB in this draft are we? I hope not.
I know what they mean but it’s hard for me to get excited about someone who is “Generally aware of the ball” <img alt="wink" height="19" src="http://www.singernet.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" style="border:0;" width="19">
for DTs, keep in mind that Fox likes HUGE pluggers (i.e. 340lbs+) at those positions. not too many guys out there with the frame to fill that up. Powe might be the best choice of those left.
I love the Herzlich story and him as a guy, and think when he comes back to full health he can be good but not at all surprised he’s still there. It takes a long time to get back to form after going through the cancer treatment he went through. But I would definitely take a chance on him before the draft is over. Seems a great guy to add to the team, people would really root for him.
Steve, yep, Carter could. And I’m all for having a deeper roster and competition in training camp. If Bruton doesn’t cut it it’ll be a good sign for the team depth imho.