The IAOFM staff discuss the Broncos' selections of Tennessee DE Malik Jackson and Kentucky LB Danny Trevathan in the 2012 NFL Draft, plus more talk about ASU CB Omar Bolden
Doug: 11 more picks til us. Anyone like Zebrie Sanders?
Ted: I do. As a 5th-rounder, he'd be great value. He's a LT
Doug: Kick Franklin inside to replace Beadles, and Blake takes over for Walton? Winn still available too
TJ: yeah, I would be shocked if he can' beat out JD and rather soon
Ted: I like Winn
Doug: We probably need a LB, no?
Ted: I think LB is low on the list. If a good player is there, take him, but you'd probably be getting another Mike Mohamed here, and you already have one
Doc: They went with Mays and Irving is supposed to have healing after an ankle injury. I agree on Mohamed
Doug: Chris Polk still on the board
Ted: Really high mileage on Polk - they ran him til the doors fell off
Doc: He seemed a little soft, physically. He runs tough but like Ted said - very high miles.
Doug: So Winn seems like our favorite guy here
Doc: I like him. I think he'd be a versatile, solid prospect
Doug: Whoa we're picking right now
Ted: Malik Jackson DE Tennessee. He's a DT/DE tweener with long arms
TJ: Wow ted, yeah - on this tape they have him inside on an 4-3, and outside, too. Holy $@#% he's a great rusher. Wowwww look at that SC tape
Ted: 6-4 3/4, 284. I see that as a DT who needs to gain 10-15 pounds
Doc: He'll be likely at DE, but he's a tweener
Ted: Maybe this is the 3rd down pass rusher
Doc: If they can strengthen him up, he's another potential pass rushing tool.
TJ: Yeah, def - has to be. Guy is rockin' this tape. He will generate pressure
Doug: He sure looks like an athlete
Ted: Yeah, Tennessee recruits talented guys. I don't think he can hold up at DT on early downs right now, but I like him as a pass rush option. It jumps out that Tennessee used him all over their front
Doug: Inside he seems to get stood up a lot - but outside, he's a monster
Ted: I have him against LSU - I'm seeing over-pursuit in the running game, being overzealous to hit the QB
Doc: Agreed. He's quick but struggled to anchor. Not a run defender but another good outside guy. He'll be competing with several of the tweener guys - Garland (who's 300+ now), Jarmon, Ayers, Hunter...
Ted: I like this pick. To me, this is buying really low on a guy who has obvious talent, and who was productive in the best conference
TJ: Reminds me a little of Trevor Pryce’s body type
Ted: Yeah I agree, TJ. He carries that 284 pounds really well
Doug: He does not look 284
Doc: He's got room for another 15 lb or more on that frame
TJ: He doesn't have sack stats, but you can see by the tape that he finds his way to the QB a lot
Ted: Mason said he played at 265-270
Doug: Oh well that would explain it haha
Ted: I think the Wolfe and Jackson picks are going to improve the DL group a lot this year. I'm pretty fired up about it
Doc: Very good later moves to improve this draft. Good interior depth (who could start in a couple of years), good move for Malik Jackson. I'm pretty happy with the day - a better pass-rushing corp, a decent G/C, a return guy with some CB chops
Ted: Jackson will likely push Ayers for snaps
TJ: Billy Winn, wow! Let's get him! Wow, Polk is there, too
Doug: We'd have to give up a future pick, like a 5th next year
TJ: Sanu is so quiet, man. Trey Wingo is trying to get him to talk, and he won't say a thing. Poor guy, I'm glad for Sanu. I like his demeanor - calm, soft-spoken dude. Haha every white wide receiver drafted in mid rounds gets the obligatory "Wes Welker" comp. Just did it with the guy from VA Tech - Coale
Doc: I'd love to get Winn. It would be a wealth of improvement over Sealver Siliga or the two year injury time off of Ty Warren
TJ: Me, too, Em. I think Winn is very much like Wolfe, would be great depth
Ted: Yeah another relentless hard-nosed guy with some white-man grit
TJ: White-boy magic: intangibles
TJ: They have Tomlin on ESPN - the baddest MF ever. I love that guy. One thing is for sure, Em - Winn won't be this year's Jeremy Beal. He would be on the field
Doug: How does a guy like that slip this far - bad interviews?
Doc: Could be.
TJ: They should trade up and grab him. He's too good to wait
Ted: Not the greatest measurables made him look like a #3 or so. Maybe we just see lesser players with notable measurables jumping over him. There goes my guy Iloka to Cincinnati
TJ: You can never have enough DLs
Ted: Criner to the Raiders. I'm meh on him. Redskins released John Beck. Remember when the Shanahans thought he was a future Pro Bowler? Fun times..
Doug: Yeah that was only a few months ago, and Kyle wanted him in like the top 15 picks out of school
Ted: Yeah, funny how comments like that can make you look like a fool a little later. It's Kellen Moore time!
TJ: But he's 50-3. All he does is win
Ted: ALL HE DOES IS WIN. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT?
TJ: Nothing. Not one more thing
Ted: I'm so damn sick of this Machine Gun Kelly song. It's been on like five different commercials
TJ: @#$%ing kickers going before Winn
Doug: Okay to go over again, Winn, Dennard, Polk, Trevin Wade, James Brown, Minnifield, Luke Nix are the top guys left according to NFL.com
TJ: Those first three guys, I think you have to jump on one of em
Ted: Minnifield can't play CB in the NFL - too slow. I don't think Dennard can play much man
Doc: I like Winn, but I'm guessing that Denver won't go to DT/DE three times. Polk is high miles, but strong. Dennard? No, not much man. I don't like Minnifield either.
Ted: Minnifield's dad could play
Doug: Off ESPN's rankings, Polk, Guyton, Winn, Cam Johnson, Brown, Markelle Martin, Antonio Allen, Edwin Baker, Leonard Johnson, Marvin McNutt
TJ: Winn adds great depth
Ted: Yeah, I want me some Winn here
TJ: You could chuck Unrein (the god) and Vickerson
Ted: That's serious when TJ wants to chuck The Unrein
Doc: Ted, what's your thought on Nix? G out of Pitt - I didn't see much of him
Ted: Another interior OL. He could compete to stick. He didn't ever blow me away watching Pitt 3-4 times
Doc: They don't have much depth at G. I watched Ptt about the same and didn't recall much, which says a bit
Ted: PFW thought he was a 3rd- to 4th-round guy, and that his deficiencies are correctable. I just don't see the Broncos keeping more than 8 OL, with 7 active on gameday, and I don't know if he can be one of their top 8
Doc: Good point. I was hoping for a backup tackle, but nothing pops
Doug: Don't forget we still have Ryan Harris, and at only $700K
Ted: Yeah, it would be great if Harris stays healthy
Doc: Good point, Doug. I do at times - so many injuries, but he's a talent when healthy
Doc: There goes Gray to KC
Ted: He's duplicative for them
Doc: I think so too - I know it's late, but I'm kind of surprised
Doug: Farrar calls Bolden "a potentially elite cover corner"
TJ: Everyone is potentially huge - you can't know. He missed all of 2011. How the f@#$ can you make that statement?
Doug: Haha well, it's better than saying he doesn't have the potential, because you could say that, no?
TJ: Yeah, I guess
Doc: The use of modifiers lets you get away with murder. Check under Williamson, Bill
Ted: Oh, Pork Chop. A hero of American journalism
TJ: Farrar must be on something. We saw two tapes, and he never played one play in man to man. Everything was off man. Guy misses entire 2011 season, and Farrar says he's "elite cover"
TJ: Oh yeah, Em - I should use that word more often. CYA
Doug: Here's what he wrote: Bolden tore his left ACL in a preseason 2011 practice, but the tape that exists shows a potentially elite cover cornerback. Not a big player (5-foot-10, 205 pounds), but can player bigger than that both in the run game and covering vertical receivers downfield.
TJ: What tape? I have two posted. Give us the game
Ted: I haven't seen it yet
TJ: Cal abused him. I sometimes think Farrar is living off the fumes of the early days of FO. Farrar was stats galore in the early days
Ted: Yeah, now he wants to be a scout
TJ: And he acts like a GM now. Yeah, exactly, Ted. Well, I want him to be good. But the tape we saw says he's just not a press-man corner. And it was two games
Ted: My issue is that he struggled in off-man, and I think the Broncos will want to ask him to do that
TJ: Yeah, I think they will - he will have to if he wants to play on 3rd down. He'll have to squat and move
Ted: Broncos are on the clock
Doug: Winn still there?
TJ: Any ideas?
Ted: Yep. WINN WINN WINN WINN
Doug: This is our last pick
Ted: And maybe WINN
Doc: Winn to win
Doug: What did this kid do?
Ted: Good question
Doug: Did he get arrested, and it's just not public? Did he fail his combine drug test?
Ted: Danny Trevathan. Another LB from Linebacker U. Woodyard-like guy
Doc: Heck, they're going crazy about how this is a Tebow pick. Shut it up
Ted: Who is saying that?
Doug: Yeah ridiculous, on NFLN - Eisen. But, this was the move up pick - the upgraded 6th-rounder. Mayock is calling him out - calling out Eisen, and Eisen is being a douche
Ted: Trevathan's a speed WLB who can compete to make the team. Mayock took it to Eisen's ass
Doc: I like this pick. Yes, it's a 6th-rounder, but he's a talented kid, a little bigger than Woodyard
Ted: I saw him a few times at UK. He can tackle and move. Not a speedster, but a smooth flow guy
TJ: They can't stop talking about Tebow
Ted: Even after Mayock just bitch-slapped Eisen about it
Doug: That's some rug on Lombardi's head
Ted: Haha if I was bald, I'd get an awful toupee. Unfortunately, I have a great head of hair
Doc: I'd add something on Trevathan. He needs to work on his change of direction, biting on play fakes and zone coverage, but he's also very good off the edge at blitzing. I want to confirm this with film, but there's no shortage of Kentucky film and it's an interesting consistency to this draft.
Doug: Zero sacks between Mays and Woodyard last year, although they only had 97 pass rush snaps between them
Doc: Makes sense. Mays was almost completely a two-down guy.