Chewing the Fat: Broncos select Brock Osweiler and Ronnie Hillman

The IAOFM staff discuss the Broncos' selections of Arizona State QB Brock Osweiler and San Diego State RB Ronnie Hillman in the 2012 NFL Draft

Doc: Wolfe and Miller - that's a very productive 2nd round. If you'd offered it to me three days ago I would have been very comfortable. I might have expected the order to change, but seriously - what does that matter? Both guys are excellent 2nd-round talents. If they settled for that option, I'd be pretty happy with it.

TJ: Great point, Em. So Miller still there? Reyes? Thompson?

Doc: I liked Vickerson as an athletic 325-lb nose. I didn't like a thing I saw as a 295-lb undertackle.

Ted: Reyes just went to SD in a weird scheme fit. Mayock ditched the jacket

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Gut Reaction: Broncos draft Ronnie Hillman at #67

It took the Broncos a few picks to get started, but they finally drafted an impact player.

And he was coached by Snoop Dogg as a Pee Wee League player.

It ain't nuthin' but a Ronnie Hillman thang, baby. Broncos on third down goin' crazy.

That's right, the Broncos just got better on 3rd down, my gansta-rap friends.  Ronnie Hillman may not be an every-down back, but he going to make things happen.  Think of Darren Sproles and you'll begin to wrap your mind around the player that is Ronnie Hillman.  Expect some big plays from this kid.

Before we get to the tape, let's make one thing clear: Lamar Miller might have been a better pick. Miller played against better competition and is a little quicker, but at this point, after taking Brock Osweiler, I'm guessing beggars can't be choosers. Only Brian Xanders can do that.  And Hillman isn't chopped liver.

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Gut Reaction: Broncos draft Brock Osweiler at #57

You wonder why the Broncos rid themselves of Tim Tebow?  Apparently, he wasn't tall enough.  

The Broncos said they were looking for impact players at the top of the draft.  If that´s the case, John Elway just lied to us.

Brock Osweiler is not making an impact in 2012.  He´s not making an impact in 2013.  And barring an injury, he´s probably not making an impact in 2014.  It turns out, the Broncos really do have a plan B. It just won't kick in for a few years.  

Although I mocked Osweiler to the Broncos in Round 3, I believe this pick is brutal in a lot of ways.  Allow me to count a few for you:

  • You just spent $18 million on Peyton Manning.  You could have spent this pick to help him--now.
  • You just spent $18 million on Peyton Manning.  You could have spent this pick to help him--now.
  • You just spent $18 million--well, you get the drift

Perhaps I'm just being too negative, and I suppose someday, this could be the Broncos' version of Aaron Rodgers, but I hate that the Broncos didn't take a Lamar Miller or Brandon Thompson.  In fact, give me a moment while I puke into a trash can...okay, I still don't feel any better.

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You Got Served: Live 2012 NFL Draft third-round analysis

Ted Bartlett evaluates draft-eligible prospects in his spare time, among a number of activities he pursues, including golf, MBA classes, and smirking about how much he's outkicked his coverage on the girlfriend front.  When his kindergarten teacher told him that he was advanced, what she was saying was that, with minimal effort, he'd be able to do better than "really passionate" people who try their hardest.  He also focuses on the NFL's business and legal environment, offensive and defensive schemes, going off on unrelated tangents, and all 32 teams in the NFL. Follow along as he offers his instant analysis of tonight's NFL Draft.

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Chewing the Fat: Broncos select Derek Wolfe at #36

After trading down from #25 and #31, Denver takes Cincinnati defensive tackle Derek Wolfe

Doug: Hey guys, so how many trades down tonight? TJ said that on the radio DMac was saying the Broncos screwed up last night, and they had intended to draft Doug Martin

Ted: I could see another one into the low 40s here if DT is the intended position. I highly doubt they would have traded the pick that was used to take Martin if they wanted to take Martin.  Tampa Bay had no obligation to share the target, but I'm sure the trade-out team asks. D-Mac is a radio guy, and radio is a knowledge-optional medium

Doc: I think that's right.  If they wanted Martin, they were in a very good position to take him.

Doug: So, who are you guys hoping for if they stay at 36?

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Gut Reaction: Broncos draft Derek Wolfe with pick #36

The Broncos traded down for this?

That's probably the first reaction from most Broncos fans to the news Denver selected Derek Wolfe, defensive tackle from Cincinnati, with their #36 pick.  Jeff Legwold didn't even have Wolfe in his top 100.  Does it make you feel any better that Mel Kiper had the Broncos selecting Wolfe at pick #25 almost two weeks ago?

First, let's deal with the reality of this pick.  The Broncos did not just draft the best player available (BPA).  There were at least ten players on the board that were better BPA choices.  What they did was draft the best player on their board at their highest position of need.  After the Broncos signed Justin Bannan, their desire for a 4-3 nose tackle diminished, and so they were surely going to draft a penetrating 3-technique.  Many pundits had Jerel Worthy, Devon Still, Kendall Reyes, and even Billy Winn as better 3-techs.

That's a subjective decision, though.  In other words, Jeff Legwold's trash is Brian Xanders's treasure.  Obviously, the Broncos had Wolfe rated as a better player.  So, while it's legit to fault them for not taking the BPA, I find it difficult to fault them for not taking Worthy or one of the other tackles if they truly felt Wolfe was a better penetrating 3-tech.

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You Got Served: Live 2012 NFL Draft second-round analysis

Ted Bartlett evaluates draft-eligible prospects in his spare time, among a number of activities he pursues, including golf, MBA classes, and smirking about how much he's outkicked his coverage on the girlfriend front.  When his kindergarten teacher told him that he was advanced, what she was saying was that, with minimal effort, he'd be able to do better than "really passionate" people who try their hardest.  He also focuses on the NFL's business and legal environment, offensive and defensive schemes, going off on unrelated tangents, and all 32 teams in the NFL. Follow along as he offers his instant analysis of tonight's NFL Draft.

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Open Thread - 2012 NFL Draft Day 2

Discuss the second and third rounds of the draft with fellow IAOFM readers

Denver said to be focusing on linemen, corners

6:34 pm - Speaking on NFLN, Andrew Luck says Peyton Manning sent him a congratulatory text message last night. What are the chances it read, "Good luck, you have no shot at matching my legacy"?

6:09 pm - Jeff Legwold went over the group of players left atop the board; Mike Klis says the offensive line and cornerback are priorities, and he also could see Denver adding another second- or third-rounder, as we had suggested this morning.

6:09 pm - The Giants gave DE Mathias Kiwanuka a three-year extension

4:02 pm - Cecil Lammey: expect #broncos to address OL needs, Martin, Glenn, Silatolu, all options IMHO...plus Polk train hot/cold w/DEN..sounds hot again now

3:12 pm - Wes Bunting also lists top guys still on the board entering Round 2, and in his second-round mock he has Denver getting Jerel Worthy and Georgia TE Orson Charles.

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The Daily Lard 4-27-12

Happy Friday, Broncos fans! As anticlimactic as last night was for us all, tonight and tomorrow should be quite active for Denver, and there is plenty of talent still available.

In effect, Denver moved back 11 spots from #25 to #36, and all they got in return for that was the fourth pick in the fourth round, #101 overall. Outdated draft chart aside, it doesn't feel like the Broncos got appropriate value for their move. But ultimately, it's not just about getting proper compensation - it's about what players were on the board, which ones came off between 25 and 36, and how Denver values the remaining available talent.

It sounds like the Broncos were hoping that Fletcher Cox, Michael Brockers, or Dontari Poe would fall to #25, and for a while, it seemed a possibility. Once those three guys went off between 11 and 14, the best values looked to be David DeCastro and Riley Reiff, and we were hoping they'd get to 25. Of course, we have no idea if Denver was eyeing those two offensive linemen, but once they went in the 23 (Reiff) and 24 (DeCastro) slots, there just didn't appear to be an obvious pick for Denver at 25.

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